“There’s no reason for a crash. Like guys, crashes don’t happen at the highs, okay? If you study every market crash in history, they usually start below the 200-day moving average..”
Qullamaggie shows Why Market Crashes Never Happen Above the 10 and 20 Day Moving Averages
“There’s no reason for a crash. Like guys, crashes don’t happen at the highs, okay? If you study every market crash in history, they usually start below the 200-day moving average, below… pic.twitter.com/cJPi7J1Ah4
— Lone (@lonextrades) August 10, 2025
Comprehensive Report: Crashes Don’t Happen At the Highs… They Happen Under the 200 Day – Qullamaggie’s Insight
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Executive Summary–Market crashes are not random acts of chaos but predictable breakdowns that rarely—if ever—unfold from euphoric highs above key moving averages. –As Kristjan Kullamägi (Qullamaggie) asserts in the provided clip, true free-fall collapses initiate below the 200-day and 50-day MAs, never above rising 10/20-day MAs where dip-buying dominates.
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This report synthesizes this contrarian wisdom with disciplined perspectives from Jeff Sun’s mechanical rules, Oliver Kell’s CANSLIM leadership, Kay Klingson’s probabilistic defenses, William O’Neil’s market timing, Mark Minervini’s trend respect, Leif Soreide’s rocket setups,
@johnscharts‘ risk emphasis, @realsimpleariel‘s MA trailing, @TedHZhang‘s alignment strategies, @theshortbear‘s bubble rhymes, @TheOneLanceB‘s momentum notes, and Mark Douglas’ psychological edge against fear.
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Through historical crashes like 2008 and 2020—often signaled by death crosses—we’ll outline frameworks to sidestep disasters while capitalizing on bull resilience.
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In volatile markets, this isn’t paranoia; it’s stacking odds via structure, patience, and ignoring noise for asymmetric rewards.
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Understanding the Core Philosophy
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Qullamaggie’s thesis demystifies panic: crashes don’t erupt at peaks but erode from weakened bases below long-term MAs, where supply overwhelms demand amid fading momentum.
He urges studying indices like Dow over decades—no collapse started above 10/20-day MAs, as institutional dip-buying props rising trends.
This aligns with O’Neil’s CANSLIM: bear markets confirm below 200-DMA, signaling distribution.
Minervini views MAs as volatility filters—trades above signal safety, below warrant caution.
Jeff Sun would mechanize this: respect MAs for layered stops, avoiding emotional crashes.
@TheShortBear
Oliver Kell echoes cycle awareness—highs breed overbought resilience until breaks.
@RealSimpleAriel
Kay Klingson quantifies: probabilities favor bulls above MAs, crashes cluster below.
@TedHZhang
Leif Soreide ties to setups: HTFs thrive above, fail below.
@RealSimpleAriel
@realsimpleariel
stresses: markets don’t crash above 200-SMA—trail accordingly.
@TedHZhang
highlights alignment: clean moves above stacked MAs, breakdowns below.
@TedHZhang
@theshortbear
notes bubble rhymes—crashes from oversold, not highs.
@TheShortBear
@johnscharts
warns: chasing highs leads to personal crashes.
@johnscharts
@TheOneLanceB
spots semis breaks as warnings.
@TheOneLanceB
Mark Douglas adds psychology: fear at highs is irrational—think probabilities, not predictions.
The ethos: MAs filter noise, preserving capital in uptrends while flagging reversals.Key Tenets:
Highs Breed Resilience: Dip-buying above rising MAs prevents free-falls.
Breaks Signal Danger: Death crosses (50 below 200) precede crashes.
Psychology Trumps Panic: Greed/fear distort—focus probabilities (Douglas).
youtube.comCycle Rhymes: Bubbles burst below MAs
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Historical and Recent Examples–The SPY chart in the clip illustrates: above 10/20-day MAs, pullbacks resolve bullishly, no crash.
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History validates—crashes follow MA breakdowns.
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Crash | Trigger Below MAs | Outcome Insight |
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1929 (Black Tuesday) | Dow below 200-DMA equivalents pre-data; death cross signals.nasdaq.com | 89% drop; euphoria above crushed below (@theshortbear bubbles).@turbin_jason |
1987 (Black Monday) | S&P below 200-DMA post-program trading; quick 20% plunge.awealthofcommonsense.com | V-recovery; fear overdone (Douglas).mindmathmoney.com |
2000 (Dot-Com) | Nasdaq death cross; below 200-DMA triggered 78% crash.realinvestmentadvice.com | Speculation peaks above, bursts below (@TedHZhang ).@TedHZhang |
2008 (GFC) | S&P below 200-DMA early; 57% drop.reddit.com | Leverage rhyme (@theshortbear ).@turbin_jason |
2020 (COVID) | S&P death cross; 34% crash below MAs.cnn.com | V-bounce; highs resilient (@realsimpleariel ).@RealSimpleAriel |
2022 (Bear) | S&P below 200-DMA; 25% decline.ig.com | Inflation breaks; no highs crash (@johnscharts).@johnscharts |
@TedHZhang notes BTC resilience above MAs during crashes.
@TheOneLanceB flags semis breaks as precursors.
Trading Framework: Implementation and Risk Management
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Leverage MAs as guards: stay offensive above, defensive below—blending Qullamaggie’s history with peers’ rules.
Scans and Identification:
O’Neil/Kell: Leaders above 200-DMA, new highs.
Minervini/Soreide: Tight above 10/20; avoid below (
Entry/Exit Rules:
Sun/@TedHZhang: Enter above aligned MAs; exit breaks (chase warning).
Trail 10/20.
Risk and Sizing:
Klingson/Sun: 0.5-1% risk; pyramid above MAs (@theshortbear).
@turbin_jason Defensive below
Psychological Tools:
Douglas/Qullamaggie: Ignore noise, study history—probabilities over fear.
Journal breaks
Pitfalls: FOMO at highs (Douglas greed), ignoring breaks (@TedHZhang)
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Perspectives from Momentum Traders
Kristjan Kullamägi (Qullamaggie): Crashes below 200/50-DMAs, never above 10/20—study history, ignore idiots.
Jeff Sun: Mechanical MAs prevent emotional crashes; layer risk above.
Oliver Kell: Cycles show resilience above MAs; breakdowns signal caution.
Kay Klingson: Probabilities low for crashes above; math favors bulls.
William O’Neil: Bear confirms below 200-DMA; time markets accordingly.
Mark Minervini: Respect MAs for trends; breaks warrant exits.
Leif Soreide: Setups thrive above; crashes from weak bases.
@johnscharts: Chasing highs crashes portfolios; MAs guide MVP trades.
@realsimpleariel: No crashes above 200-SMA; trail with 10/20.
@TedHZhang: Alignment above MAs for clean moves; crashes below .
@theshortbear: Bubbles crash from oversold below MAs; rhymes historically.
@TheOneLanceB: Semis breaks signal potential crashes; euphoria ends.
Mark Douglas: Fear at highs irrational; think probabilities, master mind over market.
Consensus: MAs filter crashes; psychology, history guide resilience above.


